??? Where's Tim ???

[kaboom]

Hey

I have tried several times to ring Tim at Kite House and email him but have had no reply. Has he changed his numbers or email recently?? has anyone else heard from him since the last race??

[schultzie]

yeah he is alive but it is winter and he can afford to close the shop when i last heard he was doing handy work....

[powerjunky03]

I see tim a bit as I live in portfairy
He has been bizzy renovating his mothers place
and hasen't been at the shop much.
how is your 5.5 raptor gowing have u been flying it mutch
I now some one ho is selling a 3.5 for $350
can send u there details if u r interested

[kaboom]

The kites great, although I havent used it much. I am waiting for Tim to send the pin for the pulley. Thats why I am trying to contact him, I have been trying to send my mailing address to him via email but it doesnt seem to be working.


Oh and thats a good price for a 3.5 raptor but no thanks

[powerjunky03]

I am going to catchup with tim tomorow I will let him now
that u r trying to get in touch with him

the 3.5 raptor is in really good condition
if u now any one that might be interested
let me no

cheers

[kaboom]

No need to get angry here, i simply am just trying to get in contact with Tim, I am not worried and I dont think anyone else is either

[schultzie]

as the boys in south park said when christopher reed was eating baby's so he could walk again, "we are not getting involved" and "were staying out of it" and dave nice to finally hear form you, nigel has told me many great stories of his fun with you guys.

justin

[The Desert Fox]

For a long time I've loved the sport of Kite-Buggying across open spaces. Not just the sport, but the many people who also practice this sport makes it most enjoyable and makes you what to go back again and again.

I live and work in the UAE and have visited Australia in 5 ocassions, all with the aim of doing some kiting of one type or an other. The last was the Birdsville Buggy Bash in 2003. You must have all read The Sand Yetty's comment about Tim's behavour towards the UAE Kite-Buggy team. For some one to promise to return money that does not belong to him and then not do as he has promise, that is simply disgraceful and shameful to the limits of been degraded to the level of been called a "thief". To be a kite-buggier, now that makes it even worst. He has put to shame not just him self, but all of you kite-buggiers across Australia. With what confidence could I my self go or recommend others to visit Australia to kite across your wonderful country knowing that there are people like Tim from the Kite House at Port Feiry who is plainly a thief. Is that the nature of kite-buggiers across Australia? I don't think so. I would request you all to help us in getting Tim to meet his obligation and return what does not belong to him.

Any kite buggiers out in Australia who are in the legal profession? If so, drop me a line and lets see if we can send some work your way.

Any kite buggiers out in Australia who are in the Police force? Have you considered visiting Tim and find out why he is putting such a shamefull reputation on you, your country and your sport?

Tim, if you read this, do the honorable thing, tidy up the name of Australian kite buggiers, and return what does not belong to you. You've had over 8 months to think about it. We have extensive documented proof that you recieved but have not return the money. Just do it.

The Desert Fox

[kaboom]

I am with shultzie here, I am staying out of this too, all I wanted to do was contact him.

as the boys in south park said when christopher reed was eating baby's so he could walk again, "we are not getting involved" and "were staying out of it" and dave nice to finally hear form you, nigel has told me many great stories of his fun with you guys.

justin

[Sand-Yeti]

as the boys in south park said when christopher reed was eating baby's so he could walk again, "we are not getting involved" and "were staying out of it" and dave nice to finally hear form you, nigel has told me many great stories of his fun with you guys.

justin

Justin,
You are right not to be involved in Tim's inability to communicate with me or indeed pay the money he owes me.
I note that the Moderator has removed Nigel's, Tim's & also my message sent yesterday. When signing as a member on this forum, I agreed to follow the rules, which included not being slanderous. I'm not being slanderous but rather just asking Tim to contact me. It seems from this thread that others have had problems contacting Tim besides me. It would be interesting to hear from the moderator as to why my message was removed?

I can understand that such unpleasantness should not be aired publicly but on the other side of the coin, Tim has seriously damaged the image of Australian kite buggy scene. There are much bigger forums than this on an international level where if this kind of thing gets loose could hurt Australian kite buggying events at an International level. I'm sure you would like to see top class world buggiers participating in events in Australia but who in their right mind will come if true stories like this one are banded about.
During the Desert Buggy Challenge here during March, we had Europeans who race in Master championship events who Ienthused about Austrarlia having had such a great time at the BBB. Should I advise them to be cautious about dealing with a certain Aussie? What kind of message do you think that would send?

I don't believe Tim's actions are typical of the average Aussie buggier and I take people at face value. Here in the UAE, we are a complete mix of just about every nationality, colour & religion. We don't even think about that but just get together like any bunch of guys to have a fun time buggying.

In view of my comments above and Nigel's enthusiasm to hold a new BBB next year, I will be there because I look at Tim's actions as an isolated case. I'm looking forward to meeting the guys I met last year like Ross & Dukey (great blokes & outstanding buggiers).
I hope I get to meet you and some of the other guys on this forum . I'm sure we will have a blast. I would like to see Tim there but really he needs to contact me so we can put this unpleasantness behind us.

I hope one day to announce a more harmonious relationship with tim on this forum but it's up to him.
Cheers

[schultzie]

well so much for staying out of it, i can not speak as i owe some one money and he also reads these forums. well i too hope to be on the bbb next year but on a mountainboard, and only if i can keep up, and from what i have heard the rocks might be my only challange in the event. if i do not fly i will make a huge attempt to meet you and your fellow collegues from the UAE.

and if the shake comes out here we will have to take him for wheel driving as nigel informed us that he is a huge fan for 4wd's.

good winds
Justin schulz

[nigel]

Sorry to drag this mess upon your forum Gav.
I too have been the meat in the sandwich.

I attended The Birdsville Buggy Bash, had a great time, meet the great team from the UAE, and buggyied some amazing areas.
I also attended the Desert Buggy Challenge in the UAE.
But it was even before I left to go to the UAE, that Dave (Sand-Yeti) informed me that Tim was with-holding money that belonged to him.
What a great time I had in the UAE!!!!!!!
Dunes,dunes and dunes :-)
Once returning home and seeing everyone days after landing at the last buggy meet, I asked Tim that Dave wanted his money. I got no definate answer as to when or if he was attemping to pay the money back.

Tim. It is good to hear that you have not departed this earth.
As for this nonsence of a libel case; to be libel it must be a false and defamatory statement. I draw your attention to the many emails that Dave has sent, saying that he WILL persue you through the full force of the law, if you don't give him his money back.
I have copies of all the emails sent to you by Dave.
Therefore as I have not told any false statements I can not be held for being libelous
Should you not be thanking me, as I have warned you that legal action may be pending????

For the sake of all the other people dragged into this mess, Dave has been trying to contact Tim for many months and it is only now that he finally responds. If this had have been sorted out long ago, it never would have got to this.
The only person to make this tedious and tiresome transaction become more damaging to ones reputation, is the person not paying up.

Tim. Please email Dave and sort this out.
Its a pity that it had to be done on a forum. :roll:

[nigel]

Kaboom, have you tried the marine place almost next door to SHQ???
They have some great stuff.
I got my pully and spinning snapshackle of them.
If they don't have what you need I am sure that you will get something very close. Failing that, email me with the details and I might be able to make you up something to fit while at work.

[kaboom]

I havent yet, I am still hoping that I will in time ge the pin thats designed for it. Ummm but thats a really good idea though i might go round there soon as I live only about 2km's away. And thanks for the offer, but I will try other avenues first.

[goshen]

Dear Mr Sand Yeti,

At first I thought your post was just a 'troll', but indeed I sypathize with you on your situation - and am sorry that you've got a less than perfect picture of Australia through your experience. I assure you that Kaboom and Yourself are not the first people to have trouble contacting Tim - and you are the customers!

It just seems totally odd that this is occuring at all... and for you both to resort to posting on a forum about this must show something...

I hope it is all equitably resolved.

Goshen

[Sand-Yeti]

Goshen,
Thanks for your sympathy. I guess you are a buggier. Do you buggy on the beach in Geelong or are there restrictions?
I think Nigel & Dukey will be organising the next BBB during 2005. I found buggying the track is quite different to anything else I?d ever done. It was the first time I'd buggied with thin tyres. We use bigfoots all the time here because of our softer terrain. Also, I was not used to buggying along a narrow track. Here we have wide spaces & can blatt off in almost every direction at will. At one point I had to go back along the track (upwind). It was painfully slow to make any real distance. The winds were generally poor but we are used to that because the winds aren't particularly good here either, although during our Desert Buggy Challenge during March (Nigel was with us), we could buggy every day. Typically, it was calm in the morning & the buggying was done during the afternoon. It worked out quite well because nobody had to get out of the sack too early and it gave Glenn (a Kiwi) & me time to plan the day's route. Planning was done on our laptops just before departing based on wind direction. We downloaded the routes into everybody?s GPS's. Mobiles & GPS ?s were critical and on several occasions buggiers were able to ring in their position when they needed assistance from the support team. We had one epic when night fell, Glenn, Nigel & I were the only ones to reach the finish while the support team was busy picking up everybody else. We telephoned in our position but just for good measure, we fixed one of Nigel?s luminescent lights to my 9m Blade II kite bridle at the end of 40 m lines. The support vehicle got close & then saw the light. It was a really black night & I couldn?t see the kite, which I was flying but just, watched this green light arcing backwards & forwards in the sky.

On the Tim issue, if you or anyone else does manage to track him down, please be so kind as to ask him to contact me.
Cheers
Sand-Yeti

[kaboom]

wow, that sounds like an imagine place to buggy. Did you put a headlight on the buggy at night?

[nigel]

We had no intention to buggy at night, Kaboom.
It was very dark and I think that as we all had been given a GPS location that was a bit out (400 metres) the glow stick came in very handy.
We were not too worried as the main road was just under a km away.
I seem to remember that Sand-yeti flew the kite by seeing which stars the kite blocked out.
That was the day the "Death Buggy" broke a German. So we were short one rescue 4x4.
As for lights on a buggy, I think those neon lights they have for cars(glowing ones that light under the car) would look great on a buggy.
I have also just picked up some great flashing lights for $2 each.
These are plated steel and come with a magnet so they will stick to your kite skin and weigh almost nothing. I have had three on my indoor kite with no effect.
Very visable at 30 metres.

The desert buggying in the UAE was fantastic, the hardest thing was deciding which side of the dunes one wanted to go. Or picking which one had the smallest drop off on the other side.
I have to say that I chickened out of the one that had a 30m drop and the bottom consisted of hard sandstone with large pillars right where we would have finished. All on a 50 degree slope.
I stopped with Glen just behind me, we both took one look then went around. I could see Dukey flying of one of these though. :shock:

[The Duke]

:D Yeh why not ?

You never know what you might land on till you try !!!

get the jumps down pat and we may even be able to sail strait over to the other side........ :lol:

[The Desert Fox]

I also took part at the BBB, Tim, who has still not return Dave's money, know about it.

The only problem with the Birsdville truck is that it is a track! To go off it means getting into bushes and risking punctures and tangles lines, not nice at all. Unless the wind is at the perfect direction, and remember that occationally the truck turns, so the wind should turn to keep you powered up. I must say that the people who joined in were all brilliant (only after the event did we found out who Tim really was!) It was just unfortunate that the number of hours spend sitting in a car greatly out numbered the hours on the buggy, to about 20 to 1!

The UAE Desert Buggy Challenge was a completely different thing. About a 30min transfer form the camp to the start, and then...on and on and on across the open desert, quite often until sun set, and beyond! When the little adventure with the flying light happen, I should have put on head lamps! I was away from the group, some what down wind from the control point. So I decided to get to the camp under my own power. It was pitch dark whiles riding across the dunes, crossing through camel grate gates, riding along asphalt side road, crossing a three lane dual high way used by trucks, ride through a hand control gate, travel up, round and through the palace grounds and land the kite next to the tents, and all that in pitch darkness, with out seen the kite, I use 45m long lines, only lissening to the hiss of the lines to figure out were the kite was! Did I enjoy.... YES, and I'll do it again. (by the way, the moon came up and lighted the night about 1/2hour after I landed!) About jumping blind off the top of a dune .... no, sorry. I might be crazzy, but not stupid.

Tim, just return what does not belong to you and we will let you off. You know you've done wrong, so that must be why you are putting a bag over your head and not replying to all the many people who are trying to reach you. You should be ashame of rubbing your name, and that of all Australian kite buggiers across the dirt. Every one who lives in Australia, help to raise your reputation back to where it was and get in contact with Tim to do the honorable thing. Just remember, he stole money form Dave, he is most likely to also do it to you. So if you supply to him or purchase from him, or know of anyone who does, warn them of what kind of person is really is.

The Desert Fox

[dazz]

I have known and delt with tim for about 2 years and have had no problems at all. I've always found him to be above board and helpful. like the times when i purchased stuff from him and didn't have enough money with me he just said to give it to him next time i saw him. he has always been generous with his gear, lending me and many others without big kite quivers kites to use when ours wen't right for the conditions. I'm sure nigel willl tell you of the sort of person tim is and that he let him crash on his couch, gave him a job and sold him gear for mates rates. It is unfortunate that you still have some money owing to you but do you really think this forum is the place to air your dirty laundry? have you thought of the fact that attcking people dosen't get the desired results?
personally i use this forum to find out about whats going on with kiting events and stuff back home, and think this thread should be removed...

...happy kiting...

btw just spent all day kiting in the sun in the middle of stockholm.. i guess some pople are just luckier than others..

[nigel]

Yes Dazz you are correct.
This is why I can not understand why Tim has not contacted Sand-Yeti about the money situation.
It leaves me perplaxed??????? :?:
I have no reason to tell Sand-Yeti or the other UAE crew why Tim has not been forward with the money. Or even in contact.
As Dazz has said, Tim is very gererous about most things, and it is this that leaves me wondering why Tim has acted so out of character???????
Sand-Yeti has been trying to contact Tim, but with no results. So the only way is to get others to contact Tim for him. That is why I posted the message.
All I want is for Tim to contact Sand-Yeti.
I have been at the receiving end of the UAE crew for the last 6 months and have had no understanding of Tim's actions???????????
If the only way to alert Tim to the fact that Sand-Yeti wants his money is for one of us to post on a forum, then that is what has taken place.
If you have any other thoughts as to how to contact Tim please let Sand-Yeti know, as he has tried emailing him many many times with no responce.
I happened to post before Sand-Yeti so nodoubt am going to be at the receiving end of any flack that is going to be sent out by any other forum members I meet.
It was not my intention to cause a rift between people, in a for and against Tim case. Infact I also like many, would like to stay out of the situation.
If you see Tim please let him know that he should contact Sand-Yeti as soon as possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! :!: :!: :!:
Then all this agro can dissapear and we can all get back on to the topic the forum was ment for. :D

[Sand-Yeti]

Dazz,
I agree with some of your comments Dazz. During the BBB, Tim was a great host, hence the surprise about his conduct after we returned home. If I had any doubts about his integrity to transfer what belonged to me, I would have opted for another method to get refunded from the Aussie customs.
I think he believes because we are thousands of miles away in another country he can keep the UAE, Kite-Buggy Team's money, figuring that we won't be able to do much about it from such a distance.

I somewhat resent your remark that I was hanging out dirty laundry on this forum. If there is any dirty laundry, you need to look who made it dirty. This thread was started by kaboom (GUS) (???Where's Tim???). Tim has not responded to any of my emails for the last couple of months, so why shouldn't I also join the thread inquiring about Tim's whereabouts. The other threads indicate why they wanted to contact Tim, so I also explained in what I considered quite correct terms the reasons I need to know his whereabouts. Your comment about me attacking people is a bit heavy when in fact I it was Tim who did the attacking. It was Tim who made a silly threat on Nigel to sue him for libel. The Moderator removed that post, I felt it only fair to explain that Nigel's e-mail was not slanderous but in fact technically correct when he requested Tim to pay his debts.

You know & I know that Tim is reading this forum but is probably hiding in shame because of his disgraceful conduct. Why doesn't he come clean & write to us or minimally contact me directly. As I mentioned before, I am willing to put all this behind me if he just settles the account. I am a very forgiving person and if the guy had come in and said that he was having financial problems or explained what was going on I probably would have said ,"Keep the money & pay me when you can" but no he is playing a game of hide & seek. In this modern world of fast global communication, you can't hide unless you sell your PC. If he were to write to me directly, and settle this mess, I would happily come back on to this forum and tell everybody that this nasty business is over and we can resume a normal relationship with Tim.

At any point where you think I was incorrect about the essence of what I have written, please tell me. State one sentence where I have made any slanderous remark about Tim. I actually feel sorry that it has come to this . Put yourself in my shoes. What would you do after 8 months of desperately trying to get someone to pay his or her debts? Would you just say that it doesn't matter that I have been robbed?
Maybe for you $Aus1300.- is chicken feed but it isn?t for me.

You would probably confront him face to face & demand your cash. This isn't so practical for me living where I am so I have written many e-mails for the last 8 plus months without success.

I contacted a small claims court in Victoria but have temporarily suspended that action because it becomes very messy & will cost Tim a whole lot more. I don't want Tim to be out of pocket because of his failure to pay but the only alternative is to write anywhere where I know he will read my mail.
Coming back to your comment that, ? Attacking people doesn?t get the desired result may be true but in the end when you have exhausted all reasonable avenues to settle an account, you start to feel like a cat trapped in a corner. Threatened cat?s lash out when cornered and in their attack they may get hurt but so do the attackers and nobody is a winner.

Keep in mind that it is not my intention spread this mess around the world but bad News has a habit of travelling fast, which puts an unfortunate taint on the Australian kite-buggy scene from an International perspective.
If other foreign teams visit Aussie in the future, they will be wary of how to manage their finances just in case they fall into the same kind of trap that I did. It doesn't send very nice signals about your great country if you think about it.

It is very sad because I write regularly to some Aussie kite-buggiers that I have never met but they seem like really great guys and hope to meet them one day.

I hope soon that we can put this thing to bed (Tim it's up to you) and I also hope if you or anybody does find Tim, they remind him of the damage he is doing to the Australian kite buggy scene.

I would sooner be writing about kite buggying epics & kit etc, than this kind of nonsense but please try & understand my position.
Sand-Yeti

[nigel]

I don't think that even you Dukey would be crazy enough to go flying off the top of one of the high dunes!!!!

The dunes being so high would kill any wind about half way through your glide and the bottom consisted of a hard sandstone base with 2 foot high columns scattered through the "landing" area.
While I might next time consider the idea of going over the edge, it wont be at any speed. Infact you must fly the kite as if you are in a jump, while rolling down the face of a dune.
You must stop the kite over flying, while you drop down otherwise you end up nursing your kite and 100 foot of line in your lap. This then has to be dragged up the face of the next dune, in sand so soft that your feet don't exist below halfway down your shin.
But if you did "jump" Dukey make sure we get it on film!!!
It also means that someone is there to prove that you too can fly like a bird and land like a stone. :lol:
So this also means that you will attend the next DBC??????
Bring on the Dukey Death Buggy!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Sand-Yeti]

Nigel,
What I like about you is your flare for the dramatic. I remember in Aussie you telling me about how the most poisonous snakes in the world lived in your neck of the woods. Venom from a taipan could kill 45,000 sheep or 13,000 human beings and spiders that could have you paralysed with just a few molecules of venom & could suck out your brains, & lay their eggs in the slimy remains or something like that.
Steven King has nothing on you for describing blood chilling deathly stuff.

Your dune buggying story is equally dramatic. I remember crossing a dune crest during the DBC, which was maybe one you had crossed earlier (who knows), looking down the leeward side about 100 feet below, to see some large sandstone rocks angled up at me just waiting to chop me in half should I get it wrong.

This is why we invited experienced buggiers to the DBC.

It is true that on the leeward side of the dunes are angled very steeply and the sand is extremely soft so that you look like you are walking on your ankles. The boots fill with sand very quickly leaving very little room for the feet.

Earlier on, I would get it wrong and be going too fast over the dune crests. This generally resulted with me continuing upwards and watching my buggy descend the dune. I often came down on the leeward slope, which wasn?t too bad because the soft sand would slide down the slope in an avalanche with me in it.

I did have a spell at one time where I would deliberately run fast up a steep dune, for a ?controlled? jump. This meant keeping the feet tucked nicely under the foot-straps, hanging on to just one kite handle and holding the buggy up underneath my buttocks with my free hand clutching a side rail. Dukey would love that except that he would be wearing his belt & have both hands on the handles. Only problem was that the front wheel did not always stay at the front, which resulted in spectacular OBE?s on hitting the deck. The biggest problem about this kind of activity is that jumping dunes kills buggies. This would be no problem for Dukey with his TIG welding skills.

Simply said, flying off the tops of high dunes with fierce looking sandstones rocks to land on could seriously reduce your life span.
Sand-Yeti

[nigel]

Sounds like the same 100 foot drop and the very nice angled sandstone.

There was two of these, one after the other. Glen was with me for the second one.
You can not approach the dune crest with any great speed as you can't see what lies beyond, untill you get about 3 foot away from the edge. Then its a bit too late to slow down.
Scary stuff, but it can be great fun if you use some common sence and respect for the dune.

[Sand-Yeti]

Common sense Nigel????
Rules out all he buggiers I know!
Sand-Yeti

[nigel]

LOL :D

[Robecq]

If you think our snakes and spiders are dangerous, wait to you see a drop bear! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[The Duke]

Yeh we tried to explain the Aussie drop bear to the UAE crew while on the BBB but I don't think they believed us... :lol:

My dear Nigel, you of all people should know that Me in a buggy is definately a long way from any sort of common sence. :lol:

As for the next trip to UAE, I will be saving my pennies to try and make it, even if only to catch up with old friends, it sounds like you guy's had an absolute ball and I would definately like to be part of it next time.

Dunes, well keepthe camera handy, I may just be crazy enough............

[Sand-Yeti]

Drop Bears conjure up pictures of some kind of giant koala that has a huge mouth with sharp fangs, which drop out of gum trees and eat American troops who are training in the wooded areas of Oz. This was very graphically described to us by Nigel during the BBB.

The animal which did cause the most interest was in fact a bird . I saw a large wing spanned bird which looked like a soaring eagle. I asked over the radio (Yeh! we all connected by radio) what kind of bird it was, only to be advised admidst a sea of giggling that it was a, 'Wedgie". We later learned a lot about this bird and in fact a more painful species called the 'Atomic Wedgie'.

Sand - yeti

[nigel]

It was a great shame that Junior did not get a visit from one of these great animals.
I also see that Americians must like them as they always have their underware poking out ready for the creature to strike :lol:

[schultzie]

are we being serious here? if so this is worse then telling the yankys that we ride kangaroos to work and that we walk around on the roofs of our houses because we are up side down.

[Sand-Yeti]

Schulzie,
During my visit to Oz, I saw many buggiers on their heads
I also unintentionally joined in this mobilization mode although can't say I enjoyed it but guess you guys get used to being upside down so that it doesn't bother you too much when the buggy the right side up.

We discovered that Kangaroos are a myth and don't really exist. In fact we gave our Australian hosts a really hard time because the only kangaroos we saw were a long way off. These were actually stuffed toys placed in the bush for our benefit. They were operated by clockwork being wound up at the back with a large key. A big spring in them made them hop. They were placed there to fool us but we knew we were being fooled. The drop bears are actually real but very rare hiding in the trees (Maybe that?s where Tim is!!).
We saw loads of Emus, which are converted Ostriches from Africa.
I think Roos are an animal but not the kanga variety

We were told that it never rained in the Outback and kind of wondered what all the wet stuff was that was coming out of the sky. Someone mentioned it was Dukey taking a leak out of the window from the car in front. Big bladder Dukey.

The thick brown stuff we were covered in along the Birdsville track was actually mud or artificial kangaroo droppings ? never did figure it out, which washed washed off as we blatted through cold flooded areas of the track.

We were cold, wet & muddy. I don?t know why I did it really but will have to check it out again just to confirm the conditions.

Sand-Yeti

[kaboom]

Oh sounds like we went all out trying to impress, we put on the rains for you and you didnt like it? As for drop bears you wouldnt usually see any around those parts that time of year, they dont like too much rain.

And yeah its true kangaroos dont exist anymore except for stuffed ones in shops. We killed most of them off years ago from stupidity, apparently they cant hold the weight of a human for more than 2 years with out dieing.

[schultzie]

it also goes along the line that in our stupidity we killed all the tazmainian tigers, however this is not true, the white settlers actually killed and removed all the aboriginals from tazmainia and for some reason the tigers left as well, not sure why they just dissapered, And at last check i had heard that the federal goverment are going to pay for tazmaina to get their first hospital, this is so that they can cut the 2nd heads of all the new born children and also to stop insest happening within the island off of australia

[nigel]

Ofcourse we all ride kangaroos here in Australia!!!
I make sadles for kangaroos in my spare time, and a mate of mine in Sydney works as a "knocker" on the harbour bridge.
Whats a "knocker" I hear you say?? Its a person who knocks off the koalas as they try to climb the bridge.
Don't beleive me!!!!!????
Do you see any koalas on the bridge then!!!!!?????

Watch out Justin I have rellies from those parts, want to see the scar!!!! :lol:

[Sand-Yeti]

Knockers, commonly known as Bristols in the UK are the two bumpy bits that protrude from a woman's chest.
Now I don't want this thread to degrade into some kind of smutty forum. The moderator quite rightly won't allow that, so let's get back to the subject and try & determine Tm's whereabouts.

[The Duke]

:roll: Maybe the drop bears got him.

[nigel]

Could be the bunyips got him?????

[schultzie]

or the tipan... who know's but we did go off topic....

[The Desert Fox]

Hello Tim,
The world of waiting to hear from you. Are you hiding? Are you so chiken scared you can not even write? What a shame to be so gut less.

If there is any one out there who is owed money by Tim Mellow, you are adviced to try and get it back now, he might not have much left after the courts have their way with him.

Tim, for stealing AU$1,500.00 you are likely to loose the Kite House. Was it worth it?

Shame on you.

[gath]

Put a sock in it Desert Fox you are not doing yourself any favours by carrying this on in public.

[Sand-Yeti]

So Gath, when somebody steals from you, you are happy to drop the whole thing and do nothing about it?
Do you keep to your rules and stay friends with the person you know has stolen from you?

Be careful, you could be in the same boat one day.
I don't think we should gag the persons) who have been victimised but rather support the victims to help with their problem.

I'm the one who is out of pocket. I'm the one who picked up on the 'Where's Tim' thread & yes, he is still trying to hide and if he isn't man enough to even discuss what he owes, then he is no man at all but as Desert Fox rightly points out, a chicken and in my book a coward as well.
He knows my email address and he knows he has done wrong & that is why he is hiding from me.

Ask yourself, why has Tim not made a clean breast of it on this forum after all as a kite retailer, he will reading all the kiting chat on & off the internet. I know that he will be telling everybody he has been busy and had problems in his family. We are all busy but we are not all thieves.

This thread has been well and truly soured by Tim's misconduct and not the the victim's of his transgression. Tim has brought into disgrace the Australian buggy scene when viewed from an International perspective.

If you want to your country to run buggy events on an International level, you need to deal with the likes of Tim who bring our sport & your country into disrepute.

We will keep this issue alive until Tim crawls out from wherever he is hiding and comes clean by returning the money. Only then will we put a 'sock in it'.

Sand-Yeti

[kaboom]

I am the one who started this thread. The point of the thread has been made clear several times. If you are wanting to continue to persuing Tim dont bother about using this forum it obivously insnt working, so give it a break.

As for saying absolutely nothing about what has happend, its actually the opposite. I am Gath's son and I have said just about everything as to what has happend. I have made my point clear and shut up about it. I suggest you do too or find another means of communication.

So Gath, when somebody steals from you, you are happy to drop the whole thing and do nothing about it? Sand-Yeti

[Sand-Yeti]

So Where's Tim?

We know he reads this forum or being advised about what written about him & hence the continuance of trying to shame him in front of his fellow buggiers.
The day I shut up will be when he pays his debt. Why are you attacking the victims instead of the wrong-doer?

It should be clear to you by now that had Tim any kind of defence, he would have bounced right back & attacked us but no he chooses to hide.

Communication is a two way street in my book. We have given Tim every opportunity and dozens of chances to come clean. He doesn't return our messages and yes we do pursue other of areas of communication. This forum is just one of them.

Please don't bury your head in the sand, you need to know how Tim is damaging the Austalian kitee-buggying image.

I'm sure you & your Dad are great guys and hope one day we can buggy togther when all this nastiness is behind us.

Sand-Yeti

[gath]

Well that worked really well. I'm out of this :shock:

[Gav]

I think everyone's point has been made.

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