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  • jhn.holgate

    Crooked wrote:Anyone have any photos of heal straps?


    Just after the start of my video in the 'idiot flys apex 5m' thread, I've got a bit of footage of some straps I made for the Vmax out of some insertion (I think) rubber. It's stiffness holds it out a bit so you can locate your foot pretty easily and being rubber provides a bit of shock absorbency. Cost stuff all and took 15min to install. So far so good. Looks like Lance will have a bit of tinkering time on his hands ;) Just as well there's lots of good buggying vids on youtube and vimeo and let's not forget the giant bulk popcorn maker he's got....assuming Wolfie left him some...
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    nigel

    If I had to make foot straps (above the pegs), I'd just go and get some big and thick bungee cord (try a tent place).

    This way it is strong enough to keep your foot from flying off, yet not strong enough to hold your foot in should you OBE.
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    Chook

    Be nice to those around you Wise.
    It's so bloody frustrating to be nailed down on a farm with an FM aerial in one leg. It's been 11 years since I got my titanium meccano set. (opposite leg, we could be bookends)
    Gives me shit when I weld. I need to drag a chain round to earth it out. :sad:

    Chin up bloke and I still haven’t caught the prick that invented the
    elastic exercise strap. :D

    I made my heel straps out of Truck "load binder" webbing so it doesn’t blow around in the wind. Sealed the ends and made the holes with a soldering iron.

    I like John's idea of the insertion rubber with active suspension. :good:
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    Wise

    not sure about this idea but i'll put it out there.
    one of my mate said like a push bike road bike peddle thing(what ever they call them)don't know how they work but i think that could be more a problem then a fix
    nigel wrote: I'd just go and get some big and thick bungee cord

    other idea was a heal strap with bungee cord and work boots. idea there is to put weight on the strap and lock your heal back and in can't go down and can't bounce up easy.(working on the fact i wear my work boots 9/10 time buggying)reminds me i have to get a new set the last got cut off haha. thinking about that a bit more maybe even a square tube for the pegs just so it locks a bit better

    Chook wrote:Gives me shit when I weld. I need to drag a chain round to earth it out.
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    Are you shitting me chook :eek: i do most the welding at home :fear:
    sparks before lunch i could have roast leg :P
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    jhn.holgate

    Wise wrote:one of my mate said like a push bike road bike peddle thing


    Is this the sort of thing?
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    These pics were on the power kite forum as an idea for someone who couldn't bend his knees (for a buggy). Interesting idea.
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    BGKD

    Without some significant engineering of the foot pegs those will not work.

    The problem is cycle peddles only have one degree of freedom and its in line with the predominant degree of freedom of your knees, ankles etc

    As you steer a buggy however the angle of the foot pegs alters perpendicularly to your legs/feet, and this twisting motion will either break the link between the pegs and the shoes, or worst rip your ankle out of its socket.
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    Wise

    yeah thats it. the only problem is during an OBE don't want to be stuck on on the bug

    thought i'd put up another pick of my leg nice colour coming through you can see where the seat hit my leg just above the ankle swelling is still up but a hell of lot better. taking alot of time to go down coz it cut the artery so blood flow is a tad slower than normal. when they the first cut to put the plate in alot of blood came out def must of coz i had bits of old blood all the way up to my knee. its getting easier to move my toes think that more swelling than anything else doc said all the nerves were in the right spot.

    Hope he tighted all the screws coz the nuts still loose :P :derisive:

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    JKS

    Lance ..... I feel compelled to ask .... being that your a farmer and all that.


    How come you shave your legs ?



    Ar ar ar ar
    Marty
    p.s. Glad yer spirits are far beyond your mobility :good: They will heal you quicker.
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    BGKD

    JKS wrote:Lance ..... I feel compelled to ask .... being that your a farmer and all that.


    How come you shave your legs ?



    Ar ar ar ar
    Marty
    p.s. Glad yer spirits are far beyond your mobility :good: They will heal you quicker.


    I heard (from wolfie), that hairy legs stick to wool like velcro :D
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    Andyfly

    BGKD wrote:
    I heard (from wolfie), that hairy legs stick to wool like velcro :D


    :rofl: :rofl: :mosking:

    I've just taken delivery of 5mts of dive weight-belt webbing to make up some heel straps for Goz.

    This webbing is a little more rigid than std seat-belt weight, withstands wear better and is uv, salt-water stable.

    will post pics once done..

    @ wolfie.... if this stuff sounds right for what you want...pm me some measurements and I'll ship some up to you.

    you too wise or any one else....just let me know...

    Andy...(..happy to order more if demand outstrips supply...)
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    BGKD

    @andy

    I may be interested in that as well, also giving some serious thoughts to a hotwire harness as well
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    Andyfly

    @ BGKD... no problems...let me know your measurements via pm and I'll post it up.

    I also have some fixed eye 95mm quick releases that may suit your hot-wire set-up.....$20 each posted
    (with spot welded ring)
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    Andy....

    Looks like you started something here wise.... :D
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    Peter

    wow, bad luck mate, hope you feelin much better.

    i use heal straps on my buggy. before i did, i had one massive spill that got me thinking of adding them.
    doing around 65kph, i hit a series of massive ruts, my left foot came off the peg, i lost all control of the buggy.
    all i can remember is concertrating on keeping my feet up off the ground.
    then the buggy did a very sharp left turn, and i flipped over and landed on one rear tyre, upsidedown. (very big buggy remember)
    what saved me from injury was how the buggy landed. pure luck.

    now with heal straps, i can steer with one foot.

    maybe a small amount of resistance in the steering could help in these situations too????

    what can we learn from our own mistakes? not to make then again?
    what can we learn from the mistakes of others? the same?

    wise, you sound in good spirits mate.
    you have taken ownership of your mistake, and not blamed the wind or a tree or a post for being there (or any other obsticle).
    :hatsoff:

    keep ya chin up. :good:

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    Peter

    BGKD wrote:@andy

    I may be interested in that as well, also giving some serious thoughts to a hotwire harness as well


    just make sure he does not have it before easter please.
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    Chook

    Are you shitting me chook i do most the welding at home


    No it does give me trouble. After a session on the mig in particular it feels like pins and needles on the bone. Around where the plates are. My leg has no feeling from the knee down, so I get the smell of burnt meat on the odd occasion as well.

    I always wear "Blue Steel" steel caps to protect my leg. They are a very comfortable boot. I will never wear anything else. Blunnies and Rossi don't even come close.

    About the straps, I was worried about my foot too. Wolfie suggested I try em. :friends:

    The strap supports the heel of the boot under the foot peg and needs much less pressure to control. It gently locks it under the peg and as soon as the pressure is released can be lifted.
    Great to reverse too when pushing back with one leg when the lines have gone slack when the wind is iffy.

    On each peg make the sides over size and longer. Lock the strap on with vice grips to work out the angle and position. A small adjustment makes a HUGE difference. Got it right the third time!!!!!

    My side plates are drilled and tapped to 1/4"BSW and I use cut to length gutter bolts and washers.

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    Keep smilin, Chook
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    Wise

    thats my sexy side marty. not sure about the sheep but that a lil wierd

    yeah andy send some this way and one of your gps holders :good: mind you don't think i'll worry about speed for a while.
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    jabroni

    Hey Lance, Sorry to hear about your injury. Hope you have a speedy recovery!

    I've been taking a look over some of my old footage, and I've had a few close calls - not that they were at high speeds though...

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    Could be time for some heel straps for me too.
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    wolfie

    goodone guys BUT just rember that SOME TIMES the heal strap will hold your foot in !!!! :eek: and this can be dangours too i found that with work boots and my sticky tread hiking boots the sole seemed to catch some times not always ,but one frontal OBE i was lucky that i managed to slow my kite and get control back and that would be the most important part KITE CONTROL !!! right size and experance :o even for me :crazypilot:
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    Wise

    If you saw my leg yesterday you do not want to see it today. VERY Colourfull. with any luck i should be out tomorrow :good:
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    .Joel

    Heel straps are going to make a very small difference, the reason your feet are slipping is really simple, it's smooth pipe, it has no grip. Putting heel straps on may stop your feet falling downwards, but it won't stop them bouncing out and upwards. Get a bike tyre, chop it and zip tie it over your footpegs. Doesn't matter how wet, sandy, soggy or muddy it gets it will grip to the bottom of your shoes. If you want straps then by all means put them on and they do help, but the rubber over the footpeg will do far more.

    Regards,

    .Joel
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