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    Has anyone worked out how to fly with one hand? Mainly talking about revs. I have had a bit of a play with flying with one hand but have always struggled in keeping control when doing more than just straight up and down movements. One I start to try and do any turns I have had all sorts of troubles.

    Any idea's on how to hold the handles to achive this?
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    Thats about all I can do one handed with a REV also. Index finger just under the front lines and toggle the handles with my little fingers
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    spotter

    Yeah thats what I have tried Jason... Want to be able to at least turn the kite with some control and do some inverted hovers with one hand. Would be a neat party trick.
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    Promethius

    [quote][/quote] To attain one handed flight control with your Rev. First check you line lengths are all at equal measurements. Handle setting's also set equally. You will then need to practice your one handed take offs, and slow high angle left and right handed down turns. Then slowly advance to bringing the Rev towards the ground, to a complete stop and hover about 2 metres from the ground. To do this you will need to learn to wedge your index finger of your master or stronger hand high under the toggle knots of both handles. Your middle and ring finger will be slightly wider than normal and your little or pinky finger as low as possibly stretched on the handle to be able to initiate turn control, or inverted flight into hover. You will also need to watch at first, or feel for your feet position's, and be more aware of leading with either your right or left hip to gain better alround controlability. You will also need to become acquainted with muscle memory in your arms to be able to release and then take up pressure while inverted as well. The muscle control is not constant and you will need to be aware of your arm and wrist position at varying times :yes3:
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    KaoS

    Promethius wrote: To do this you will need to learn to wedge your index finger of your master or stronger hand high under the toggle knots of both handles. Your middle and ring finger will be slightly wider than normal and your index finger as low as possibly stretched on the handle to be able to intiate turn control, or inverted flight into hover.


    So that's two index fingers per hand?? :dontknow:

    Promethius wrote:You will also need to watch you feet position


    ...if you watch your feet, your kite will probably crash :D

    For good one handed Rev flying check out Steve De Rooy videos on youtube, especially his Double Rev Ballet Demo at M.I.K.E.
    His technique seems to be much more thumbs, fore and middle fingers based only. An amazing, amazing Rev flyer, and a really nice guy too.
    I'd love to be able to say I've flown with him, but sadly he was the one who stepped out to let me fly with iQuad :o

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    Yep, that's me in the red hat...

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    Kevin Sanders

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    Promethius

    There are plenty of great Rev flyers in the world, way before I Quad even existed. (the Dec's, and the Flic are just 2 for example)...When you can fly 2 Rev's with a similar technique then you are in the same ball park... We are talking though, about flying a Rev with both handles in "one hand".. So that means using only one "index finger", the thumb and 3 other fingers grasping both handles in the one hand. Then using a great deal of wrist and elbow technique constantly being finessed and readjusted, as well as foot movements for transition and balance.

    This same technique which I posted for the gent who wanted to get info has worked for me and others for the past 20 years for both one handed Rev, and multiple Rev flying (one in each hand). Before commenting again, get your own experience on this sorted, if you dare that is.... There are not many of us in the world who can fly both 3 dual line kites at once, and alternatively a Rev in each hand properly, and I doubt very much you can at this stage...? This is the type of experience one should have before commenting on "hand and finger position's, or handle control techniques", until you can actually prove it yourself.. Makes pretty clear sense to those of us who have proven the method with actual multi Rev flying for years... :tongue2:
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    Promethius

    Funnily enough, you (in the red hat) are the only one in the pic standing square or flat footed onto the kite.... The others are all leading with either their prefered foot leading, and also hip position, and more practice needed there by the looks. This is what is meant by "watching your feet", as it is actually feeling for your foot position's ( not looking down at all). The light inputs, and dexterity necessary, is only developed by constant practice. Thumb position whether high on the handle with the crease of the thumb either above or below the cap is a personal preference for finesse. This is also assisted by a slightly spread finger position which is constantly changing, though pivoted by the "index fingers" under the toggle knots (pig tails) of the handles. This controlled technique also allows for smooth transition of the Rev no matter whether on 80ft, 100ft, or for those who know what they are doing 120 ft length lines. Whether that be for a handle in each hand, or with both handles in one hand. The technique is still the same, though the obvious wrist and elbow position changes when both handles are in the one hand. :yes3:
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    DaveA

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    Not wrong Dave .... this is GREAT :popcorm1: I never knew things got so hardcore !!

    Promethius , you deserve a Medal :good:
    (And 9 edits ... lol) WOW .. gotta get dem werdz right mayyyyyte




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    Lurkers........................ They can't fly for crap, so they lurk in the shadows. Pretty much sums up the last 2 posts.. :tongue2:
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    Oh Mr P ... next time you fly in from Singapore, pop over for a beer :drinks:
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    cool photo Kevin.

    very impressive :good:

    cheers

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    Promethius

    I'd rather be flying multiple quads, or the same in dual kites. Not into drinking and flying, as they shouldn't ever mix :tongue2:
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    KaoS

    Promethius wrote:Funnily enough, you (in the red hat) are the only one in the pic standing square or flat footed onto the kite.... The others are all leading with either their prefered (sic)foot leading, and also hip position


    At the instant that photo was taken, the group was transitioning (progressively) from left flight to right. Your obviously sharp eyes will notice that John Baressi is still facing left, I am part way through the transition, with less weight on my left foot than my right, even though my shoulders are still not square to the kite. Poor old Bazzer has his feet completely reversed (so unprofessional!) At least he managed to get flat footed by the second photo :D If only he would wear long pants and a black hoodie.

    Promethius wrote: and more practice needed there by the looks


    Always do! Even with my Australian Championship trophies from 1997,1998, and 1999 I'm not big headed enough to believe I don't need to constantly practice.

    Promethius wrote:or for those who know what they are doing 120 ft length lines.


    I'm so glad you think I know what I'm doing :rolleyes:

    Sorry you had so much trouble editing your original post (7 times and counting...) It must be because
    Promethius wrote:Your middle and ring finger will be slightly wider than normal

    When will they make larger keyboards for wide fingered people??
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    Promethius wrote: There are not many of us in the world who can fly both 3 dual line kites at once, and alternatively a Rev in each hand properly, and I doubt very much you can at this stage...?


    Sorry to burst your bubble - yes I can. Difference being, I don't brag about it
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    Promethius

    I'm not interested in pitiful excuses, or that of a kite groupie and gimicky pics..... You've got nothing....... :tongue2:
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    JKS

    I can see why there is such a need for one handed flying :hatsoff:
    You need something to keep all that modesty covered.


    When did it stop being fun :friends:
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    KaoS

    Promethius wrote:I'm not interested in pitiful excuses, or that of a kite groupie and gimicky pics.....


    Groupie?? Gimmicky (correct spelling) pics??
    http://www.qldkiteflyerssociety.com.au/gofly/GoFlyMar08.pdf ... interesting reading from page 4
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    spotter

    Had to be my post that is stiring up trouble :D
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    KaoS wrote: ... interesting reading from page 4

    That's his best side on page 7 :laugh1:
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