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  1. jhn.holgate

    Competition Time!!

    Big congratulations to Darren 'twas a pleasure to meet you and it was excellent that we at least had enough wind to give both the LS2 and NS3 some air time. The LongStar 2 really proved to have some legs....
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    Born-Kite Longstar 2

    Thanks guys! Some video to go with it. I won't be on the forum for a while but am happy to chat or answer questions via my email. Cheers, John.
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    Born-Kite LongStar 2

    Review is up: Video to come.
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    Born-Kite Longstar 2

    If you lay the longstar 2 next to the longstar 1, the first thing you will notice is that they're two very different kites. Aside from both being single skin and having lots of bridles, version 2 is a completely separate design. Flies quite differently too. The V1 longstar took me a few hours to come to grips with. If you've flown depower kites then V2 will be immediately familiar as soon as it's in the air. Longstar v2 uses a series of ribs and stiff nylon lines to hold a round nose profile and the rest of the kite is held in place by lots of bridling. A look through some of the photos will show how accurate the bridles are, resulting in a uniform and smooth profile. You can buy the longstar. V2 with a bar or as a kite only. I was supplied with kite and bar for the purpose of the review and it came in a compact nylon bag. Being a single skin kite, it folds up very compact and you could easily fit several kites and a bar in a std kite bag. The material feels quite light but of excellent quality and all stitching and seams are straight and accurate as have been all the kites from Born-kite that I've flown. There's no denying that there's a lot of bridles on the longstar2 so it always pays to check for any hang ups and give them a good shake when laying out the kite. The kite launches easily whether straight downwind or side launch. It makes power pretty quick too and builds quickly with apparent wind. This is a grunty kite. I was able to buggy in 5 knots up and down the beach - admittedly, I had to work the kite so I think 6-7 knots would be your minimum park and ride wind speed for the 5.5m. Letting the bar out to depower the kite results in a change in the AOA as well as a flattening of the nose-to-trailing-edge profile. You can see the belly of the kite losing tension and becoming slack. It doesn't actually get to the point of being 'flappy' unless you have the bar out and the cam cleat fully sheeted in - something I only did once just to see if I could get the kite to make some noise! Depower range seemed perfectly adequate - whenever I was overpowered, a quick sheet out of the bar and the drama was over. Here you can see what the kite looks like when depowered... Turn speed was a good compromise - not too quick or nervous and neither was it sluggish. The kite is very stable even in gusty conditions. In the air it feels quite 'sporty' and almost aggressive. It wants to be actively flown unlike, say, the NASA star 3 which is happy for you to sit back and cruise whilst almost ignoring the kite. It also feels relatively 'high aspect' in the air - coming out of a turn for instance, you need to let the bar out a little to get the kite up to speed in the new direction. Hold the bar in too much and the kite can 'choke' and begin to stall. It is a very well behaved kite - over five or six hours of flying both static and bugging, only once did the kite end up on the ground unintended - and that was a complete lull in the wind. The nose folded over a couple times in light and gusty conditions but recovery was immediate with a tug on the bar. Same if I wasn't paying attention and choked the kite - let the bar out and business immediately resumed as normal. Upwind performance was good for this type of kite, you won't be catching a vapor but you'll get there. Downwind performance is very good as was top speed. While flying in a cross onshore wind of around 14 knots, Trevor managed a 62kph on a downwind run with the Longstar2. Bar pressure was light to moderate proving to be no dramas keeping the bar held in for long periods. This is not a lifty kite which is good news for buggy pilots not wanting to get unintentionally lofted but perhaps bad news for land boarders wanting some freestyle. Pull the brakes and the longstar 2 reverses out of the sky without fuss. Similarly reverse launch is fuss free. But what I really like is the ability of the longstar2 to sit on its side at the edge of the window with the bar out and hands off. It just slowly bobs up and down while you stretch your legs, eat, adjust harness, talk, take photos etc. I also used this method to hand the kite over to Trevor and to land on a couple of occasions- I just dropped the chicken loop over a foot peg and walked over to the kite. I know this is not unique to the longstar2 but it is extremely handy. The kite has a front line safety - a simple push of the chicken loop sends the bar and lines up the line to the splice flagging out the kite on a single front line. This brought the kite down without dramas and was easy enough to reset. There is also now an option to get the kite with an FAS (front area safety) that causes the leading edge of the kite to 'scrunch' up when activated Overall the kite impressed me greatly and was a pleasure to buggy with. It was a well behaved, stable and versatile kite with excellent all round performance and I will certainly be saving my pennies to add a few to my quiver. I can't see any reason it wouldn't also make a great first depower as an alternative to the usual suspects. The bar supplied with the longstar2 had a comfy grip, a large opening for the power lines which did not bind when turning, a push away chicken loop, cam cleat adjuster on the power lines and the fifth line terminated next to the chicken loop in a ring which you attach your leash to. It also has a double ball and ring setup for limiting bar travel or using to hold the bar in place. Both Trevor and myself found this just a little too stiff and complicated to use easily. It is something I would try to improve or tweak if it was my bar but also not something I would lose sleep over or blow an extra hundred bucks on for a better bar. Bar pressure is not such that it's a big issue, but it would be nice to have a simpler, easier to use system. Each of the brake leaders joined the main lines via a stainless steel ring which provided a handy place to insert a kite stake when landing. Rings at end of brake leaders - a handy spot to drop the kite stake. Now I would much rather judge a kite on its own merits rather than compare it to another manufacturers product......having said that, the most asked question I've heard about the longstar2 is 'how does it compare to a Peak2'? So, for a couple of hours, both Trevor and myself flew the 5.5m longstar2 and the 6m Peak2 swapping kites on a number of occasions. Here's what we found. The longstar2 was better downwind- faster and holding its shape better. The Peak 2 went upwind a little easier with the longstar2 requiring more work and being a couple kph slower. The longstar2 feels more aggressive and sporty to fly, I also think it's a bit faster as I've flown the P2 a lot but never matched Trevor's 62kph that he did with the LS2. Perhaps the P2 has a little more depower but this is at the expense of a fair bit of flapping and noise. The LS2's depower range never left us feeling like we wanted more. The LS2 seemed a bit more stable and easier to handle on the ground. Turn speed was much the same. I think the P2 may have an extra knot of grunt in the bottom end with the LS2 having a bit more 'go' and power in the top end. The P2 clearly has a much better (and more expensive) bar and more bar pressure at speed. Shape-wise the LS2 holds a much more uniform profile. Is one kite 'better' than the other? No, I honestly couldn't say that. For me, they are both excellent buggy engines. They feel different to fly but both kites achieve the desired goal - aoxomoxoa!! The LS2 represents excellent value for money (at least in Australian retail pricing) and as such certainly deserves your consideration. Born-kite has produced a well rounded, versatile depower kite that should give the competition a run for the money. A big thanks to Trevor who helped me out over many hours on several occasions while we tested, posed and photographed the kites.
  5. jhn.holgate

    Born-Kite LongStar 2

    I mis read your post and edited my comments. i have worked really hard to get a comprehensive review up and running and I am incredibly frustrated at the semantics and Bullshit going on in this thread. You caught me this morning after reading your above post and I was incredibly upset and I sincerely apologise for my outburst - you and Mel did not deserve that. I am no longer in a fit state to carry on as administrator and I will step down immediately. once again, my sincere apologies John.
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    Blow @ Kingston SE 2017

    45 degrees on atm at 14 knots. Needs to swing a little more. Maybe meet at the robe bakery 11.30?
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    Born-Kite LongStar 2

    No, I have fully tested and reviewed the longstar2 and bar and will publish a full and fair review as soon as I get back from Kingston. It will be up with pictures and videos by the weekend. The bar is most certainly not as bad as made out - I have actually used the bar for several hours and can tell you that it is light and comfy to use. The chicken loop is easy to release and reset and the cam cleat adjuster is likewise easy to use. Yes, the twin stopper ball is a little too stiff and awkward to use in my opinion but this is hardly a deal breaker on a reasonably priced bar. the kite itself is excellent and Trevor and myself have done a full side by side test with a Peak2 as well. All shall be revealed shortly. Guys, can we keep the discussion relevant to the Longstar 2 and not other bar setups please.
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    Blow @ Kingston SE 2017

    Fishing comp should be clear of beach by mid morning so we're hoping for onshore winds and some long runs to the granites. Most likely spot will be a km or so nth of Blackford drain. If it's cross on from the south then we'll try up at the granites.
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    Born-Kite LongStar 2

    First day on the beach with the Longstar2 was pretty successful. Left both myself and Tiger37 with a smile on our face and a speed of 62kph for Trev. This is an excellent kite and is performing really well. Have some good pics and videos and hope to get a lot more. Trev and myself will put our heads together and get a thorough write up done when we're back.
  10. jhn.holgate

    Why can't I edit my own post?

    You should be able to use the edit option at the bottom of your first post to change the title or any other part of the post
  11. jhn.holgate

    Born-Kite LongStar 2

    Would have been nice to see it in action. I assume this can optionally replace the regular front line safety? I'm taking the LongStar2 to Kingston tomorrow and hope to get a few beach runs with it weather permitting.
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    Blow @ Kingston SE 2017

    Got it, thanks!
  13. jhn.holgate

    Movies For 2017

    I'm looking forward to Ghost too. I hope it's a bit clearer than Under the Skin was. I must have had the biggest frown on my face while watching that movie...the whole thing was like...WTF?......WTF??..... Enjoyed Rogue one, Passengers and Assassins Creed recently - none were particularly outstanding but pretty good viewing none the less. Will be going to see The great wall and Justice League. SKull island looks interesting. And a new Aliens....although the previews for that aren't terribly convincing.
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    Blow @ Kingston SE 2017

    What do I need to open this? My Nuance PDF reader won't read it and Word Pad wont open .doc files.