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I haven't used my 8m Ozone Manta 2 for a long long time so it has to go. (plus I need some $ get a new water kite) This kite is basically brand new, barely even bedded in. It was purchased brand new and has been used only twice: - In 2012 for a couple of days in the Cock's harbour area. (trip info with photos here) - In 2013 for half a day on Carruthers East ridge in Spring. Why so little use? Well, I am not a freestyle/lawn-mowing sort of snowkiter, I tend to go out exploring and for this I prefer a two-kite system of a 5m Frenzy and either 11m Frenzy or 15m Summit. Includes, backpack, leash, bar/lines, spares etc Gum-nuts sold a 10m Manta 2 recently for $450 and by the looks of it, that kite had had a little more use than mine. I am pricing this one to sell: Price: $400 Located in Ryde, Sydney
I was after a low wind engine for my buggy, to enable me to get out more over winter, my original idea was a 6.5m Ozone Method, but then found the Manta II on Kitepower. I spent some time trawling the forums for reviews and opinions of the Manta, especially as it is an older kite (2010) and didn't come up with anything negative. A phone call to kitepower who answered all my questions and I knew that I had to have it (it was also a good price as it was older model!) - Credit card details handed over and it was on its way to WA.As always with kitepower it had arrived within five days ready for the weekend. A very impressive bag with room for at least a couple of kites, external pockets, the customary Ozone key rings and stickers. Some Velcro loops on either sides for the bar and the 5th line safety (as well as the kite, lines, bar and instruction manuals). I took the kite over to the footie oval to attach the lines, set it up and if the wind is cooperating give it a fly. Thankfully set up was straight forward with the lines numbered - but somehow I still managed to get the bridle twisted, but more about this later.I had already converted my Ozone Access SB harness back from a roller to its original spreader hook designed for the Ozone Megatron Chicken loop. The wind on the oval is notoriously lumpy - but after a bit of perseverance I got the kite up and moving. Though a couple of times would drift to the ground due to lack of wind. When the power did kick in the kite showed some of its potential, it pulled well and was pretty quick through the turns despite its size. But I was just playing and getting used to the bar.Overall, I was very impressed the kite had the usual excellent Ozone quality, crisp fabric, excellent seams with no loose threads. The air intakes are massive and have internal cross-bracing. The bridle and Ronstan pulleys are all top quality. And the things like the Velcro tabs to secure the bridle, the wing tip dirt outs just show Ozone’s attention to detail. The only downside is the bile green colour! The bar is the 54cm carbon bar, EVA foam covered and colour coded, which includes - Megatron Chickenloop with top spinning Handle to untwist your lines after rotations or bar spins, easy to land brake handle, leashless re-ride safety system, line trimmers - to fine trim while flying, high Quality stainless Ronstan pulleys. It looks and feels great with fine trimming on the lines as well as a clam-cleat trimmer. First time out in the buggy, the winds were pretty non-existent to start with but my perseverance was rewarded as it did pick up – but stayed at the lower end of the Manta’s wind range approx 12-13kph according to Willy Weather). Easy to unpack and set up down on the lake – took a bit of walking backwards to launch but that was due to the low wind. Later on as the wind increased, it was easy to launch.The kite did get me moving and developed some apparent wind as I moved it through the window. I loved flying hooked into the bar and the kite responded well to the bar and didn’t feel big or sluggish. The feel on the bar was light but you could feel it respond to gusts and depowered towards the top of the window as I didn’t want any lift, and pulled it in for more power and speed as I dropped the kite down.I could land the kite easily by pulling on the stall handle, it would reverse down quickly with very little pull. I also used the stall handle to reverse launch, by pulling on one side. Ozone Manta II 10m - first flight from Mark Crook on Vimeo. It was during the first half an hour I noticed that the right hand wingtip kept collapsing and folding in and noticed from the buggy that the bridle on the right didn’t look the same as the other side (the wind tip folding is noticeable in the video) and didn’t really affect the performance! I landed the kite staked it out and with it sat inflated on the ground and went and inspected the bridles. Somehow in my initial set up I had got the bridle twisted and looped through itself – after a couple of minutes of fiddling had it the sorted – no more wing tip curling. I have to say that it didn’t affect the performance or handling! Since that first flight I have been out with the Manta II in varying conditions and from very little wind in which the kites has taken plenty of work to get it moving and most recently in wind that was ranging from a recorded gusty 12-26kph so getting right to the top end for a 10m Manta. The kite performs really well in the buggy, it develops lots of power throughout the window, turning is quick and precise the kite feels stable and user friendly with its ease of launch, it will sit comfortably at the top of the wind window with very little input and is also simple to land and reverse launch if needed. The feedback through the bar is positive and I can really feel and counter the gusts and the depower range is impressive (remember this was my first depower!) as the kite can go from fully powered and pulling like a train to very minimal pull. I am overcoming my fear of flying a big kite, well... With my lack of experience I would often find that I’m still leaving the bar fully out (depowered) as I set off and finding that there is not much power and I’m not moving anywhere fast! Then pull it into a neutral position and things start to happen. At the other end of the spectrum when the kite has been fully powered I am hanging onto the bar with grim determination, hammering along, with the bar in the powered position – thinking I’m going to die! Then realising and releasing the pressure on the bar and feeling more in control again! This was more down to my lack of experience with depower than any fault of the kite! I am avoiding any lift, which is why a lot of people use a depower and haven’t felt at any point that I am going to leave the buggy, in this respect I think my bar work has been exemplary! Powering up as I drop the kite down into the window and for that extra burst of speed and then depowering as I push the kite up in the window to turn. I am confident that as my experience increases I will push this kite harder, so far it has proven itself as a low wind buggy engine and got me moving when my other kites wouldn’t. But with its huge wind range it is so much more than that. I love flying on the bar, the fact that you can sit back and cruise, but a simple pull and the power increases and you get one of those woohoo! Moments. Once again the Ozone build quality is first rate, the bag and bar really finish the whole package. The kite is powerful, exhilarating, but has the stability and predictivness that I like. The Manta has bitten me a couple of times usually as the wind picks up to the top of the wind range and when my attention drops - it is a powerful kite.
After all the hype on the new M3 Manta, I knew I had to try it and give it a go to see what all the fuss is about. I thought there must be some huge changes, as it’s copped a lot of criticism in the past with the Manta 2 in the last couple of years. After flying the Frenzy’s for a while it was time to try out and up grade to the Manta M3 so I ordered the 8M and 10M. I prefer to ride on Kite skates, but I also ride a buggy, land board and also kite surf. Oh ye, I don’t like to admit it and don’t want too many people to know, but I also static fly Rev stunt kites when there’s not enough wind to do anything else. So I reckon that I know something about kites. Kite Bag The Bag itself is brilliant. The shape and padding on the straps, makes it feel comfortable on the back. And the porous material they’ve used and the way its split into separate sections to allow air flow though your back to prevent sweating is a fantastic idea. The bag itself is a perfect size, not to small but big enough to fit my 13m Frenzy FYX, the 10m M3 and the 8m M3 all tightly rolled up, so as you can see it’s a good size to carry your entire kite quiver with you. The Kite That evening I lay the kite out on the floor at home to see what the shape, colours and size look like, I could see the material, lines, and pulleys were still of the highest quality Ozone always uses, and as with Ozone they leave the bar and lines not connected to the kite, so I lay down the bar and connected all the lines, and I know this sounds corny but connecting the lines myself gives me a sense of connecting with the kite. The great idea of having the x lines to prevent the kite from inverting is so clever, and again just like the Frenzy with the back line ajustments on the bar is a huge benefit for extra grunt if that what you like. Flying The following day, down at my local park, I pulled out the wind metre with the reading showing a gusty 18 to 21 knts and some times up to 24 knts, I was wondering if I should pull out the 8m M3 instead of the 10m, but thought it would be a good indication on what type of wind the 10m can handle. At first I laid out the 10m. I attached the kite to my harness and again how easy, with the simple system Ozone uses with their chicken loop. No silly fiddly little strings to deal with. No awkward straps to fumble with. The only issue I have with the chicken loop is the direction that you need to pull to activate it. I believe that it needs to be a pushing action, away from the person rather than a pulling action, towards the person, because when the kite lines are not tight, its hard to pull the safety release towards you when its floppy. With the kite set up and ready, I let go of the brake lines and up it went easily without needing to launch the kite side ways into the wind to lessen the chance of a superman type of launch. The kite slowly inflated itself from the middle, and slowly out to the tips, with not a hint of trying to drag me down the park. With other brands, when I’ve tried this type of launch, I’ve been hauled across the park trying to stay upright by running down wind as it fully inflates too quickly and catches all the wind, way before it reaches the zenith. As the kite sat above my head, there was no lift in the kite even in 18 to 24 knots of wind, it just sat there, neutral with no power or lift or any hint of trying to drag me around, just an occasional little tug when a gust or two would come through, but still sat there waiting for my input. I jumped in the buggy and for the first hour I was just taking it easy, just to familiarize myself with the kite because it does fly totally different to the low down grunt of the Frenzy’s that I was used to. The M3 is a performance kite that you need to work to get the power happening to start with but when it gets going you can just park and ride, where the frenzy is a park and go sideways ride, right from the word go. In the second hour I was into the small redirecting and little bunny hops, and the up on to wheels thing easily, there were a few by standers so I was just showing of with my new kite. But in the third hour, it was time for the big test and I got right into it with some inverting jumps, table tops, and I was ready for the big jumps to see how high I could go. All I had to do was build up speed, a slight redirect, pull the bar half way and up up and away we go with what felt like a 2m high jumps, (I’m not sure I want to go any higher in a buggy, but you can if you want to just go harder). I let go of the bar and a glide off for about 10m with ease, then pull the bar down again for a soft landing. Now the best part of this kite for me is its ability to kite loop and not get yanked and pulled uncontrollably down the park like some of the other kites I’ve tried. This kite loves to be looped, it’s made to be looped, and it’s a loopy kite. Did I mention the loops with this kite are awesome? And boy can it loop as fast or as slow as you like, you’re in control. On the Kite skates, it’s brilliant with how much faster I can go. This kite just goes fast there’s hardly any side ways pull its all forward motion and when it gets going it just keeps going, faster and faster with the apparent wind it creates. It has also given me much more time in the air to do more tricks, grabs spins and airs. My jumping height used to be 2 to 3m now is at a controlled 3 to 4m. The other thing I’ve noticed about this kite is the massive wind range. I had this 10m out at 25 to 28 knts and mind you I only weigh 78kg and there was no problem with keeping this kite with some control but, if you are a beginner don’t try to fly a 10m in these sorts of winds. The purpose for me trying it was to find out the kites wind range and limits. I did try it once before, with a 10m Manta 2, at one of our club meets and that was only around 21 to 23 knts - I was fighting to keep the kite under control, and trying to stay on the ground. This M3 is something else. It has the same power as the 11m FYX Frenzy, but it does fly faster, goes up wind better because there’s no side ways pull, its all forward motion and turns heaps faster. Conclusion In summary this is the gliding machine that I was looking for and that you’ll love. With a large awesome wind range that, in my opinion, is a safety benefit. It has a tight, quick turning circle and excellent looping ability. It’s a kite that will take you to the next level. You will never out grow it. The Manta M3 is definitely the most exiting kite I’ve flown. So if you’re thinking of getting your self an M3 do it, You’ll Love It!.... ......