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3 hours ago, Olof Palmolja said:

Hello!

Is there some left? I want to buy. Possible to post to Sweden?

Br

Might be able to get hold of Gav here.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/672896952742193/permalink/906910762674143/?sale_post_id=906910762674143

 

https://www.facebook.com/gmulvay?fref=nf&post_id=906910762674143

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After years of trying I finally got mine two 16's :isohappy:

I'm now in the exclusive club of F-ARC owners.

They are unbelievable crisp. I few things that was new to me: The first two cells in bottom- and first cell in top skin, is in havier fabric, like ripstop dacron or something. The end caps for the spars is hard plastic rather then gummy and they are attached to a sewn in line going through the top of them. The deflate is a zipper rather then velcro that the original ARC had, and it runs cordvice. I find no drain holes.

No flying yet..

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15 minutes ago, Olof Palmolja said:

After years of trying I finally got mine two 16's :isohappy:

I'm now in the exclusive club of F-ARC owners.

They are unbelievable crisp. I few things that was new to me: The first two cells in bottom- and first cell in top skin, is in havier fabric, like ripstop dacron or something. The end caps for the spars is hard plastic rather the gummy and they are attached to a sewn in line going through the top of them. The deflate is a zipper rather then velcro that the original ARC had. 

No flying yet..

Welcome to the club @Olof PalmoljaEnjoy!

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On ‎2017‎-‎03‎-‎17 at 11:38 AM, Olof Palmolja said:

The first two cells in bottom- and first cell in top skin,

I wrote wrong before, it's the other way around, first two cells in outer skin and first in bottom.

Finally got around to fly it:

It's not hard to fly at all, it's very stable in the sky, and responds well with steering input, slow turning yes, but no probs to place it in the window, if you see what I mean. 

It pulls very hard at the edge without stalling. It has weak autozenith behavior, which not necessarely is bad.

The depower does not exists, really. It only make the ears flap, still pulls like a wild horse. 

FUN :-)

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@Outlaw:

Props for the Frankenstein 16+ kite.

I'm an old school Dutchie hooked on F's and P's. Proud to fly them regularly in 2018! On mountainboard, buggy, skateboard, skies and on steady wind days even on the water. I really love these kite, ever since the introduction.

Depower can be found in choking the kite and keeping it choked until the kite reaches the edge of the windwindow or zenith. By choking you can lower the speed of the kite and so you are able to kill the apparent wind quotient.

F12 and F9 are far favorable over F16, because of the respons and turning speed. Nice alternative are the Phantoms, but I am still head over heels on my F's.

ArcSissy

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I live in the Netherlands, close to former 'Vliegerop' and I knew a salesrep who has helped me acquiring some Arcs, F-Arcs, P-Arc and even a proper flying Hi-Arc. Besides I'm a twin-skin addict and using several other PL models as well like Vapors (buggy and skateboard) Synergies (surf).

The F-9 is a proto, which has a 'after-market' tweek in the form of a top skin tug. It is now as stable as a standard Arc, but a little less depower as result. The overlap with the F-12 is almost complete, so I fly the F-12 more often. My first love still is the F-12, which will haul my weight (100 kg) fine in normal Dutch conditions. It has a larger windrange and can be flown in little overpowered circumstances, in contrast to the F-16 which has a extreme small windrange.

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Welcome @ArcSissy

I too am a bit of an ARC nutter, got 8 of them.

All the high aspect ones, Scorpions, and Phantom's I + II's.

Even two prototypes, a Scorpion-Phantom hybrid, and a bridled ARC.

But I love the shot with the old Peel's in there!!  :clapping:

My first power kite was a 2.5sqm Peel.

I still have it, and pulled it out a few years back, only to find that we do look to our old gear with rose coloured glasses. 

It wasn't as good a flier as I remember it. :blush2: 

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Well .... here's a little introduction to my kite 'career'. It started back in 1990 (bless me) when I bought a Peel 2.5 and lines. I fabricated a harness my self of car safety belt and started an addiction, which I still crave every day.

Heavy wind days left the beach full of skit marks and sour legs, which brought me the idea to experiment with skies on the sand. At first I just shortened alpine skies, but found out pretty quickly the normal size skies work the part as well. On one of my excursions (downwinder) I saw the first buggier, so another habit grew pretty quick as well. A few days later I met a physically disabled guy, strapped to a knee board, who was skimming the surf ... you'll guess by now .... That was what I had to try-out for my self.

This first watersesh was in the days the Leganioux brothers were experimenting with bladders and kites. The second sesh was years later on a C-Quad 6.3 in 6 Bft. winds on a regular windsurf board. It was no succes, but the water seed was also....

Then Peter Lynn introduced the standard Arc range, which left me high as a kite and broke in one sweep. But I kept buying and collecting kites for special purposes, so in came the F's, Bomba, Phantoms. I even ended up with a set of Flexifoil Blades (Mk. II) and was happy and satisfied for a decade.

Then ... the news arrived me, Vliegerop (kite wholesaler for Europe) had to close shop and that left me with another dent in my budget. I think my kite quiver holds about 30 PL twin skins and several single skins and I even bought a 'pumpy' for the really stormy days. The inflato (Fuel 9) came in as I found out that even a 1.6 'trainer Arc' was to much for a 100 kg pilot, but I use it rarely. I still prefer the hassle, pull and lift of a F.

To enlighten all of you who own a Hi-Arc which doesn't fly, the final product from China has a production error which can be corrected. Only simple machine sowing skills are needed, the back part of the cell-walls where turned upside-down in manufactering. Open up the trailing edge, loosen all back parts of each cell wall en re-sow flipped upside down. The production models all have a trailing edge bowing down, but the have to be bowing up (the PL Peel edge stabilizer if you like). I went through the hassle of correcting the kite and have a ultra fast and stable kite. The kite has shown me I have smaller cohones than I thought, I never dared to take it to the max (100 kph is enough for me and the 'gas' had some power left, phew).

I hope you all like reading the older stories and hope I inspire a Hi-Arc owner to (re)vive the kite to its design splenders! 
It's really worth it. PM me if you have any difficulties with it, I'll try to help you out.

Cheers,
Aart

@Nigel

Those kites are in my holy quiver as well, but they seemed somewhat tuned down or eased up. I got used to the F's and like the direct respons and instant pull versus the ease of use and auto-zenith of the later ones. When totally used to the bridled twin skinners, they are just as nice I guess, but I never took the effort ... F's are always pulling my attention.

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Wow, what an amazing collection 🤤

i have collected a few arcs (and made a few), but nothing like that.

i have one of the hi-arcs too, which I haven’t flown yet. It came from @outlaw at peter Lynn in New Zealand and he has done some tuning to it and assured me it flys and is bloody fast.

Bloody good to have someone so experienced with arcs on the forum

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... and assured me it flys and is bloody fast ...

You bet ... faster than I will trust myself. She's very stable but beware of gusts ... it lofted me a few times during speedruns. Luckily I know jumping from kite surfing, so soft landings were no problem. 20 feet of the ground at 70 kph makes the world look somewhat different :blush2:.

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Hello @outlaw

I have used f arc 12 & 16 few years ago, sold them, and looking for now again.

Would you still have any for sale (16 mainly, but 12 too) , and if yes, post  to France ? (NZ post rate finder seems acceptable).

As I am a newcomer, I can not PM you, could you PM me for answer?

Thank you very much, and good ride.

Morgan.

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