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I've followed your flow chart @.Joel and it turned out like this!!!!!!:goofy:

My walking horse I've built is almost ready to paint. :good: Ears and tail to fit after painting. I'll get Anne (Mrs Chook) to do the detailing for me.

Built it from scratch and had a few old photos I found from 1929. LOTS of time spent getting the walking rocker system linkages and radiuses correct.

Reason for the build.........I rode one as a very young kid but cant remember where (neither can my parents) But it's still etched in my mind like it was yesterday and also I like a challenge. It also scratches an itch I have always had to make one. Still just a kid at heart I guess??:grin:

Kit done with pine head and rockers, 18mm ply legs and body and the steel "rear leg to foreleg actuating system" installed into the body.

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Dry fit of all the bits.

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Here it is walking in the clip below. By rocking it back and forth and transferring body weight using the foot pads it can walk both forward and in reverse. 

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4 hours ago, Chook said:

I've followed your flow chart @.Joel and it turned out like this!!!!!!:goofy:

My walking horse I've built is almost ready to paint. :good: Ears and tail to fit after painting. I'll get Anne (Mrs Chook) to do the detailing for me.

Built it from scratch and had a few old photos I found from 1929. LOTS of time spent getting the walking rocker system linkages and radiuses correct.

Reason for the build.........I rode one as a very young kid but cant remember where (neither can my parents) But it's still etched in my mind like it was yesterday and also I like a challenge. It also scratches an itch I have always had to make one. Still just a kid at heart I guess??:grin:

Kit done with pine head and rockers, 18mm ply legs and body and the steel "rear leg to foreleg actuating system" installed into the body.

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Dry fit of all the bits.

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Here it is walking in the clip below. By rocking it back and forth and transferring body weight using the foot pads it can walk both forward and in reverse. 

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Looks like a duck to me :)

 

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Oh My Giggy Goat......Chook is Father Christmas!......Making wooden toys.

I absolutely love this Chook. I think the original concept was a French idea. What a talent and what a memory!

Well done! I can't wait to see it finished and all painted up. 

Here's the only photo I could find of the same walking style.

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On 25/12/2017 at 2:09 AM, Chook said:

Here it is walking in the clip below. By rocking it back and forth and transferring body weight using the foot pads it can walk both forward and in reverse. 

Holy moly that works!  Amazing build there Chook :good: 

You could scale a few of those up to adult size and after a few drinks have your own horse race in the backyard :D 

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4 hours ago, Mez said:

I absolutely love this Chook. I think the original concept was a French idea. What a talent and what a memory!

Ta Mez. From what I found it was built by Harold Lloyd in the USA in 1929 and later called a "Hollywood hobby horse". I got in touch with the museum from Tacoma, his home town and all they had was some old photos.

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Also found a couple from where they had gone to auction over the years in the USA.

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Been a lot of fun nutting it out and getting it to work/walk correctly.

4 hours ago, .Joel said:

Holy moly that works!  Amazing build there Chook :good: 

You could scale a few of those up to adult size and after a few drinks have your own horse race in the backyard :D 

Yeh the boys from fire brigade said I should build a couple in steel to race and bet on, for our next Melbourne cup piss up!!! 

Gee I've only got 3 teeth left now, without getting onto a big one. :grin:

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16 hours ago, Chook said:

Ta Mez. From what I found it was built by Harold Lloyd in the USA in 1929 and later called a "Hollywood hobby horse". I got in touch with the museum from Tacoma, his home town and all they had was some old photos.

Thanks for that Chook - I shall have to go and do some reading up. Love to see the metal ones in action.

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Hey Chook Love your work with the walking horse. I'm Jim from Ballarat Vic.

I come across this thread in a google search looking for some info on Hollywood walking hose as I'm looking to build one.

I saw one at a fair a few years ago but could not get a good look at the under side.

I'm looking for a pic of the rocking mechanism and/or some ruff do mentions

I  would like to know if you could help please. Happy to pay.

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Yes I certainly will help you if I can Jim.

I spent hours with cardboard mockups and drawing pins to get the pivoting mechanism sorted out. Move one pivot point a fraction and it buggered up the total movement.

I have cardboard templates (That are full of pin holes ;) ) of the horse. I'll see what I can get sorted out. (Make that, if I can find them.)They are in my filing cabinet in the workshop somewhere.

 I'll be honest, I haven't even given mine it's final coat of paint yet. Another project took over before I finished it.:grin: It's sitting there with a coat of primer on it.

Jim send me a few replies and I'll respond, as I think you need a few posts before the private message system will activate. (Someone will know how many posts required)

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Here you go Jim. :drinks:

All 18mm plywood is high quality ply, as there is a lot of load on it when adults ride them.:grin:

 

The blue crosses are the pivot points. 

Bottom hole on this FRONT leg is 6mm for the 6mm cup head bolt which screws into the 10mm internally threaded tube. The top 10mm shaft the 30 x 3mm linkage sides over and connects the 2 front legs together to the rear legs.

The top 10mm hole takes the 10mm shaft and is just pressed in passing through both legs and is retained by being captive in-between the body sides. (the shaft is flush with the outside of both front legs and is retained between the body sides. The linkage just slides on between legs and is a loose fit over the shaft.)

This allows all the final leg assembly by fitting the 6mm bolts last. 

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Rear legs and the head. Rocker is a lamination of 3x 35mm pine. Head is also 3 x 35mm wide. Holes in the legs are 10mm with inside only chamfered to allow room for the welds on the drive plate on each side.

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Ply cover hollowed out for rear leg and the actuating linkage measurement. Check the actual shape of linkage on next photos. (see all the pin holes in all the legs and linkage parts to get the correct leg/rocker movement. LOTS of frustration and beer to sort it out.) ;) 

Note the dates on the templates and you can see it sat on my bench for a while. Each time I went past  I'd have another go at it trying to get it to operate smoothly or just make new templates.  

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Overall size of the horse.

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Mounting details of the axles to the main body. Really important to get these right!! (Or legs jamb up)

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10mm Rod connecting rear legs together. Washers welded on the inside of rocker.

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Underneath looking at the front.

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Rear leg pivot and 3mm drive plate.

This 3mm "flat drive plate" to bolt the rear legs to is welded on the other side of both 10mm shafts.IMG_2140.thumb.JPG.eea8e7ba5da7547e50416c26cac4074e.JPG 

This half washer holds the actuating linkage in the centre.

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Bottom view the neck and head at the top. A steel U bracket strengthens the front of the body.

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Base of rockers.

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Hole in rear of the seat for rope tail.

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Maximum opening of leg movement. See the cover over the exposed rear leg attachment nuts.

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Minimum forward movement.

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3mm x 25mm flat bar, U bracket that bottom of neck attaches too. The pivot for the front leg (far right) is an internally threaded tube, so front legs can be fitted to body with only the 6mm cup head (slotted head bolt) of the bolt protruding from the side of body. The front legs pivot on the plain shank of these bolts.

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How it sits at rest.

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Neck, steel angled 3mm bracket for strength. Holes in the top of head for the leather ears.

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You can see a lot more detail in the previous photos at the very start of this post before the horse was painted.

As you can see painting is not my best work. (More runs than Don Bradman.)

 

Hope this helps you Jim.

Cheers Chook

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On 12/29/2017 at 9:38 AM, Chook said:

He's really cute!!!! :good:

Like Wow Chook You Da Man. That is awesome Thank you. I was looking to see where the push rod from the

back leg and the front leg attached. I thought it had a slot in it but was not shore.

I was wrong but it all makes sense now. 

Will have a read and a think and  let you know how I go.

I found this pic the other day.

Chook I don't know what to say you went above and beyond Thank you.  JIM

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Glad to help Jim.

I reckon you are dead right, as it looks like there is a block of wood between the top of the front legs. If it had a slot cut in it for the linkage to clear this would be much stronger and also keep the linkage centred on the back axle.     I really like that.:ok:

I also like the U bracket at the front. (I see it has a timber packer fitted to position it.) It continues all along the inside of the body and supports both leg pivots and finishes almost at the back with a rounded end. This way it negates having saddles to retain the rear axle and having drive plates on the rear legs. (just make the body slightly deeper it fit it.)  A lot less work all round.

It looks like the front leg pivot is pinned into the bottom of the body with a nail too.

I really wish I had found this photo when I built mine.   Out of interest where did you get it?  

Thanks for sharing.:isohappy:

Cheers.

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Google image search mostly try "Hollywood Hobby Horse Harold Lloyd Antique Toy Wooden Ride On Horse" "walking horse" "Hollywood Hobby Horse" this is where i start.

A reverse image search can work to if you have a pic I drag and drop in search bar and it will show the same or similar images and go from there.

Most search finds are links to antique stores actin houses and E bay.

I save all pics/images of things i like and put in a folder " hollywood hobby horse" for later use as most stuff and info we look up is not always there when we want it.

Here are some links http://www.oldwoodtoys.com/new_page_31.htm

,https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1929-antique-hollywood-hobby-horse-co-1828327973

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/3240081_624-harold-lloyd-child-s-hollywood-hobby-horse-c1939

https://www.prices4antiques.com/Ride-On-Harold-Lloyd-Hollywood-Hobby-Horse-Wood-Polychrome-D9886721.html

Sorry can't find the link to the under side pic. It must be gone, mite have been e bay but not shore and the revers image search is not working so it mite be gone.

I did save some more pics of that horse but the under side was the most relevant.

 

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16 minutes ago, jimwi said:

Thanks. I have never tried reverse image search.

This first pic in the link above, is the picture that I copied and then projected onto an electric white board at work and printed it out to get the scale correct.

I even tried asking on 2 American woodworking "Wooden toy" forums without any success.

Hope you give it a go at constructing one.

My test pilots before it was painted, had a smile like they had a coathanger in their gob. They loved it and made the job well worthwhile.

 

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