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I have been waiting on the side lines patiently for some years now, hmm shall I buy one, shall I make one, too expensive, bills to pay ... Any way, Niash have currently a special going on, well I guess it's a special since they are offering a complete foilboard package for just under 2000 $NZ -- the board, mast, foot straps, fuselage, horizontal stabilizer and main wing. Purchased from KiteSports New Zealand, South New Brighton. Sure lots of other deals going, but want to support the local kitesurf shop. Sure it's a beginners board, but that is what I am with foilboards at the moment, and if I decide to upgrade, Zac gets to use it. Hey and guess who suggested the board to me? My lovely wife. :) .

So here are some pictures of it

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It's what they call a free ride board with a low aspect ratio wing, so will not be breaking any speed records with it, but not trying to do this anyway. Just want to have some free ride fun out in a lazy swell when the wind is on the ligth side. Not exactly light weighing in at 9.7 kg but looks like it is robustly built, so will be more tolerant of my mistakes whilst learning. It is has 90cm mast, have already been told that I should consider a short mast for learning, hmm will see how I go. There is no angle of attack adjustment screws or similar, but suspect with such a low aspect ratio wing this will not be necessary. All the bits and pieces came undamaged and fitted well. Though not shown in the pictures also comes with a heavily padded carry bag for the mast, fuselage and wings -- nice. The screws interfacing the mast to the fueslage were a tight fit, needed quite some torque to screw them in, so these will not be unscrewing them selves in a hurry.

 

Now all I need is some wind in the right direction to try the board out. Spot of Easterly onshore predicted for this evening at 18:00 but fluky whether it will actuall come through and tomorrow is forecast for solid Southerly (not onshore, blowing over the PortHills before reaching the beach).

Will be interesting to see which of my FlySurfer kite sizes work best with the board, 8, 10, 12, 18 m^2. Guessing my 8m^2 Speed IV will be the best.

Some more tech specs: Main wing Aspect ratio= 3.38, area 880 cm^2 wing span 54.6cm; board length 160cm width 48cm max; textured foam top all over. Also comes with a pair of 9cm heigh stubby fins for the board so you can use the board without the mast/hydrofoil. Might actually work well as a light wind kiteboard with such a large surface area, but really when the wind is light I will be aiming to use it with the hydrofoil.

So I am expecting plenty of amuzing launches and unexpected landings -- all part of the fun and new learning experience.

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Good score :)

That mast etc is identical to the LF Fun Foil, and I've ridden the Naish and that board for a few hours too.

Here are some thoughts for you . . .

Long mast is fine. Short is easier initially as you'll get launched and lobbed and slammed a little less, but once you have your balance you'll find the extra length will give you time to control the height.

With the full length mast, you'll need the highest tide to ride the estuary and really only out in the center where the channel is. You still ground out with 60cm mast but you'll have more space either side of the channel where the water starts will be possible.

TefGel all the bolts, unless you plan on breaking it down every session. Use actual TefGel; other stuff I've that was supposed to be the same, wasn't. The bolts would loosen no matter how tight I did them.

I'd replace the bolts with Torx bolts too; I hate hex heads, they always round themselves out :D

Don't hit the bottom. That board cracked (easily IMO) from hitting the bottom and the board hitting the water. When you ground out, try to get your weight off your front foot. Easier said than done!

Single front strap only (if the board can). You only want it for water starting, to hold the board in position. When you fall off at funny angles, you're going to end up with twisted ankles. And straps as loose as possible -- you don't need them when you're standing on the board, and you don't need them.

Solid wind. Lulls and gusts will give you shits; it's hard enough getting the board into position without having to fight the kite.
Same kite size as what you'd ride a big TT and just be able to go upwind...

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Thank @Kamikuza. Will see where I can get some of that TefGel, especially for the mast to wing, those bolts were tight and would hate to try and get them undone with a bit of corrosion build up, epsecially from galvanic action. Guess I do not need much of the stuffs is quite expensive.

Sounds like from your advice I will stick with the long mast, the estuary is only a training ground the goal is to be out on the ocean, that is the place where Zac and I have ghe most fun. Spoke to one of the local foilers yesterday and he said there are some concerete blocks lurking in the estuary, yikes! Next session will be at the beach. Yes was wondering about the bolt hex sockets rounding out. At the moment I am just taking the mast off the board for transport and storage.

Foot straps, funny you mention that, I have seen a lot of free ride vids on foil boards and they go strapless, so when I spoke a year ago to one of the foilboard company owners, mentioned strapless and he looked at me in horror, saying at speed you do not want to go strapless. So I guess that means, strapless going slow and free ride, straps going hell bent fast. Hmm will see how it all pans out. 

Fiting the kite, ha ha. Zac and I had our first go of the foil board at very high tide on the Estuary yesterday, wind was 6 to 7 knots. We put up the FlySurfer Speed Lotus 18m^2. Was like Tip Toes On The Tulips, as we went deeper into the water was harder to keep a grip with our feet on the ground. I had my 20 seconds of fame as the foil took me up, bugger too much back foot pressure and it rocked out of the water, a nose dive after, a prompt face plant. Started to get better at it with more front foot pressure. Zac and had similar experiences. Being imersed in the water that long, after 2hrs we called it quits for the day. Better luck next time. All good fun. Was easy enough to slip my feet out of the foot straps when coming off the board.

 

Found it, TefGel, sold at Jaycar, Christchurch.

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There's a video in the TefGel website about how to and how much to apply. I used to completely disassemble, except for mast to plate, and those were the bolts that seized then sheared off at the head. So I'd at least do those; they're a bugger to get out.

Start out in the ocean then :D I guess the breakers make it tough if the wind is up, but you have to learn to body drag through them eventually. And I seem to remember there wasn't much wave action on 12 knot days...

My first strapless was on the Hover. For water starts in light winds with big slow kites, you need something to keep the board in place. But for learning no straps is ideal: there's zero chance of twisted ankles or knees.... So the compromise is single very loose front strap. When you're riding, pretty much only your toes will be under it so baleouts have very low risk of locking your foot in there. You'll find out when you can get up and ride, but then the board falls downwind while you fall upwind ;)

Can't stress enough: shift your weight with yoga lunges. Put your feet in the center of the bolt holes; maybe a little forward, like they would be if hard forward into the straps. The board designers probably know best where the holes should be to balance the ride ;) then keep your torso upright and lunge. You'll shift more of your weight with less effort and more control. Keep your knees relaxed but your legs well damped, like good off-road suspension. And anyone who tells you that you need to stand in front of the rear mast has poor technique. When you get better you'll need the rest foot back more, and you'll actually find yourself pushing of it...

Good job :) my first session was about two hours too. Probably 119 minutes trying to get out to deep enough water and a whole minute trying to get onto the board. The ratio improves rapidly, especially when you choose to go out in more wind :D I had the most success with Speed 3 12m (speed vs power) and about 15 knots.

I recommend at least a helmet too...

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Look for cross on at the beach, onshore is a nightmare for foils getting deep enough for wave. Yourl be ok In an estuary of course if its  deep enough. 

Kite sizes. Follow this for a while. 

8-12 knots 12m

12-16 knots 10m

16-20 knots 8m 

20-25 knots 6m

 

 

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